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Goth family
Name Goth family
Number of generations 4 generations
Family connections Crumplebottom family, Bachelor family, Caliente family, Lothario family
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The Goth family - The Sims
Members Mortimer Goth, Bella Goth, Cassandra Goth
Lot 5 Sim Lane
Funds §2,542
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Game The Sims Icon The Sims
Playability Playable
Neighborhood Neighborhood 1
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The Senior Goth family - The Sims
Members Gunther Goth, Cornelia Goth
Lot 77 Maple Street
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Game The Sims: Unleashed
Playability Playable
Neighborhood Old Town
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Members Mortimer Goth, Bella Goth, Cassandra Goth
Lot 5 Sim Avenue
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Game The Sims (console)
Playability Playable
Neighborhood Willville
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Bella and Mortimer (The Sims Bustin'Out)
Members Mortimer Goth, Bella Goth
Lot Goth Manor
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Game Bo logo The Sims Bustin' Out (console)
Playability Playable
Neighborhood SimValley
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Goth Main
Description
Cassandra is ready to start a family of her own, but can she tame the town Cassanova [sic] ? And can Mortimer bounce back after the disappearance of his wife Bella?
Members Mortimer Goth, Cassandra Goth, Alexander Goth
Lot 165 Sim Lane
Funds §511,632
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Game The Sims 2 Icon The Sims 2
Playability Playable
Neighborhood Pleasantview
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Goth family in GBA
Members Mortimer Goth, Bella Goth, Cassandra Goth, Alexander Goth
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Game The Sims 2 (GBA)
Playability Unplayable
Neighborhood Pleasantview
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Goth Family (The Sims 3)
Description
The Goths have lived in town since time immemorial. The aura of gloom from the nearby cemetery suits them, but can a young boy named Mortimer grow up to be well-adjusted in such a place?
Members Gunther Goth, Cornelia Goth, Mortimer Goth
Lot 13 Skyborough Blvd
Funds §50,000
Difficulty level Difficulty3
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Game TS3 Icon The Sims 3
Neighborhood Sunset Valley
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Goth household
Description
After having the house to themselves for a while, the Goth Ghosts are now living with a human in their house. Will the Goths be able to get accustomed to living with a human for the first time or will the inquisitive Helen Hall ask too many questions?
Members Samuel Goth, Helen Hall, Frida Goth, Olivia Goth
Lot 249 Valley View Drive
Funds §20,000
Difficulty level Difficulty3
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Game TS3SN Icon The Sims 3: Supernatural
Playability Playable
Neighborhood Moonlight Falls
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Description
They have lived in town since the beginning. Is their aura of gloom deserved or more the result of growing up with a dad named Mortimer?
Members Alexander Goth, Cecilia Goth
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Game The Sims 3 (Nintendo DS)
Playability Playable
Neighborhood Beacon Bay
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Members Rebecca Goth, Buttons Goth
Lot 1107 Rocky Pine Run
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Game The Sims 3: Pets (console)
Playability Unplayable
Neighborhood Sugar Maple Coast
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S4PE Goth
Description
The Goths are an aristocratic family with a dreary aura. Between Mortimer writing macabre stories and Bella's mysterious disappearances will Cassandra and Alexander grow up to be gloomy, too?
Members Mortimer Goth, Bella Goth, Cassandra Goth, Alexander Goth
Lot Ophelia Villa
Funds §45,500
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Game TS4 Icon The Sims 4
Playability Playable
World Willow Creek

The Goth (Speaker Icon Listen) family is a prominent family in The Sims series, originally consisting of just Mortimer, Bella and Cassandra, appearing as one of the starting families in the original The Sims. The family is featured in all four main games (The Sims, The Sims 2, The Sims 3, and The Sims 4), The Sims 2 for GameBoy Advance, and of course, The Sims: Bustin' Out for console.

The immediate members of the family appear in Neighborhood 1/Old Town[TS], Pleasantview[TS2], Sunset Valley[TS3], and Willow Creek[TS4], and are considered a key founding family in those places. Other branches of the family appear or are featured in the histories of other areas, including Moonlight Falls, Lunar Lakes, and Sugar Maple Coast.

Background and origins

The earliest known Goth was possibly a medieval-era woman by the name of Lady Ravendancer Goth, who wrote ‘Lady Ravendancer Goth’s Book O’ Spells’. The original tome was found in the Gothique Library, a library built by the very first Goths that settled in Sunset Valley. Magical ability is a common trait shared by many Goths; it is shown in several games that Bella Goth is capable of magic, and her mother-in-law Cornelia Goth was often used in promotional images dealing with magic things such as spell books and the Cowplant (note that Cornelia's possible relatives, Beatrice, Belinda and Bianca Crumplebottom are all witches).

In the 17th/18th century, a girl by the name of Morgana Goth, drove men to insanity with her beauty. So famous was her legend that a doll was made and manufactured to resemble her.

The appearances of Goth family members throughout the tree indicate a long lineage of wealthy businessmen, politicians, and scientists. Most male Goths are seen in suits and business clothes, while the women usually prefer long and elegant dresses.

The Sims 3

In The Sims 3, the family lives in Sunset Valley, which is set around 50 years before The Sims 2 and 25 years before The Sims. At this time, it consists of Gunther, Cornelia, and young Mortimer. They are "old money", which means that they have inherited their wealth from earlier generations, like Victor and Gretle's generation. They have §50,000 in funds and live in a large Victorian manor by the cemetery; which is the first house built in Sunset Valley and built so that it presides over the town.

In the description of Sunset Valley, we learn that the town was "founded by the Goths and built up by the Landgraabs." The "uptown ideals" of the new Alto family clashed with the more traditional views of the Goths, forcing the townspeople to choose sides. However, this is contradicted by the fact that the Goths start out as friends with Vita Alto.

In The Sims 3, the Goth family appear more literally Gothic - which their name refers to - than they seem in previous games in The Sims series. For example, their appearance in The Sims 3 is of more of a Gothic nature, as Cornelia, Gunther Goth, and Agnes Crumplebottom all wear a lot of dark purple and black (for Agnes, this also may be related to mourning the death of her husband). Mortimer and his father also prefer the color black, while Cornelia prefers purple - both are typical colors used in Gothic fashion.

The strongest evidence, however, is the prevalence of the Grumpy trait in this family. There are only 6 Sims in Sunset Valley who are Grumpy, and 4 of them - Agnes, Cornelia, Gunther and Mortimer - are related to the Goth family. It appears that the Grumpy trait is a Goth family trait, at least among its living members. However, the pattern doesn't seem to apply to the deceased relatives, like Gretle Goth and Victor Goth.

Lot

The Goth Home(Big)

The Goth home seen at the Sunset Valley Cemetery

The Goths live in Goth Manor, a large house by the Pleasant Rest Cemetery in Sunset Valley, at 13 Skyborough Boulevard. However, the Goths have their own family graveyard, as seen in the pictures below. The first floor includes a large kitchen, a chess area, a dining room, a bathroom, a foyer and a large living room. The second floor features Gunther and Cornelia's bedroom, two bathrooms, Mortimer's bedroom, a guest room and a study. The third floor is an attic, and the fourth is a tower and roof terrace. Grey siding and dead trees on the property give the house an aged look, bringing out that the mansion was the very first house in Sunset Valley. Dark wood work throughout the house gives it the Gothic feel. Some people believe the back "greenhouse" was once an indoor pool. It is possible, though speculative, that this house was the original estate that Mortimer Goth burned down.

Description: The Goths have lived in town since time immemorial. The aura of gloom from the nearby cemetery suits them, but can a young boy named Mortimer grow up to be well-adjusted in such a place?

Goth Manor: (3br 3ba)

"Antiquated Victorian elegance has been preserved exquisitely in this landmark home. The first home built in this town, Goth Manor presides over the town and is located in convenient proximity to the local graveyard."

Size: 60 x 60

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The Sims Bustin' Out

In the The Sims Bustin' Out on console, the Goth family only consists of Mortimer Goth, who works as a virus breeder and Bella Goth, who works as a horror movie extra. One could assume they have not had children yet. It is odd because Mortimer looked much older here than anywhere else (except for The Sims 2). It is possible that his scientific work as a virus breeder contributes to his grey hair. Bella herself has red highlights on her black hair.

They live in the Goth Manor, where there are two tombstones at their backyard. Sims will need to exorcise the ghosts that haunt them, since both Mortimer and Bella are disturbed by their moaning and roaming. But however: it's unknown of who the ghosts really are. The manor, however, has a graveyard visible at the background, behind their backyard.

The Sims 3: Supernatural

Gunther's sister Frida Goth had decided to move to Moonlight Falls when her family suggested a marriage to a member of the Landgraab family and she did not want to. Joining her eccentric uncle Samuel Goth, who tragically died when he ate a magic jelly bean, and his youthful wife Olivia Goth, who, during mourning, electrocuted herself to death, setting the house ablaze, killing Frida along with it, they all turned into ghosts. The household was later joined by a fortune-telling band manager, Helen Hall, who met Samuel at a convention.

The Sims (console)

In The Sims for console, the family takes place before The Sims and consists Mortimer Goth, Bella Goth and Cassandra Goth. They live at 5 Sim Avenue, a one story version of their house from The Sims.

The Sims

In The Sims, the Goths (Mortimer, Bella and Cassandra) live in a rather small, but comfortable house at 5 Sim Lane and have §2,542 in funds. Eight unknown relatives are buried in the backyard.

The Sims: Unleashed

Mortimer's aristocratic parents, Gunther and Cornelia Goth, the town's founders, made their debut in The Sims: Unleashed along with their two cats, Hecuba and Menelaus in a plantation-styled mansion. Gunther is in the Education career track as a Dean, and Cornelia is still a housewife. It is noted that their relationship had vastly improved since 25 years ago, during the timeline of The Sims 3.

The Sims 2

In The Sims 2, the Goth family is the richest pre-made family in Pleasantview (and all of The Sims 2). The family is worth around §640,000 and, unlike most pre-made families, the bulk of it is in cash. The house and furnishings at 165 Sim Lane are worth around §124,000 and the family has §511,000 in funds. Normally, it wouldn't be possible to reach this amount without cheats, but Gunther started out rich and got richer, and with Mortimer being his only child, it's likely that much of it was inherited. It's also possible that some of the cash came from selling the house at 77 Maple Street (which cost 160,000 Simoleons), or at least, from selling the furnishings and fixtures.

By this point in the game, Mortimer is an elder nearing death. His wife, Bella Goth, has mysteriously disappeared and never returned, having been abducted by aliens. Since her disappearance, Mortimer has been seeing Dina Caliente, a much younger woman who is only with him for his money. Cassandra Goth, his daughter, is engaged to Don Lothario, the local womanizer (who is romantically involved with three other women, Dina being one of them). Alexander Goth is Mortimer's only son.

When the family is first played, the yard is set for Cassandra and Don's wedding. Unless the player has them perform some romantic interactions before the actual marriage takes place, Don will almost always leave Cassandra at the altar.

The Sims 2 (Game Boy Advance)

In The Sims 2 (Game Boy Advance) they are unplayable, as they don't have a major role. They only appear when a new episode starts and ends. They rate the episode when the player finishes it. The game is set some time after The Sims 2, as Bella is reunited with her family.

The Sims 3 (Nintendo DS)

The Goth family re-appears in The Sims 3 for Nintendo DS in Beacon Bay. It takes place after The Sims 2, although the description for Beacon Bay implies that it was built before Pleasantview. Alexander is a young adult, and married to a woman named Cecilia Goth. They have §50,000 and appear to be a very gloomy couple, due to Alexander having to grow up with a father named Mortimer. They both wear all black clothing and top hats, with Alexander looking very much like how Gunther Goth did in The Sims 3. Alexander has orange hair, meaning that he may have dyed it. While Mortimer is mentioned in the family bio, Cassandra and Bella are nowhere to be found; neither are Gunther, Cornelia, and the other relatives. There is a possibility they may have died, but it remains unknown.

The Sims 3: Pets (console)

The Goth family is one of the pre-created unplayable families from The Sims 3: Pets for console. Rebecca heard stories for years of her great-grandfather and the town he carved out of the wilderness. She decided to come to town to learn more. This suggests that she could be a distant relative of the late Timaeus Goth, who has a tombstone at Sugar Maple Coast. Rebecca is living with her cat, Buttons.

The Sims 4

The Goth family appears again in The Sims 4, living in Willow Creek. The family consists of an adult Mortimer; Bella, who in this incarnation is much younger than her husband, starting out as a young adult; a teenage Cassandra; and Alexander, who is a child. The Sims 4 is officially considered an alternate universe from previous installments of the game, which explains the age discrepancy of the characters compared to previous releases. The family have §45,500 in household funds and live in a spacious and expensively decorated three-story house named the Ophelia Villa. This is the first Goth home belonging to the core family members not to feature a graveyard on the premises. Like all other homes belonging to the Goth family there is no television or stereo on the lot; the only electronic equipment is a tablet computer (found in Cassandra's bedroom) and the family's personal cell phones.

The Goth residences

Main article: Goth home

Because the Goth family has featured in so many different games, there have been a variety of different homes for them. Every Goth home, besides the one in The Sims 4, contains its own graveyard. Each of the PC games, plus all the console editions, have shown ghosts haunting the mansions and scaring the inhabitants.

Trivia

  • The main Goth family, consisting of Mortimer, Bella, Cassandra and Alexander, may have been inspired by The Addams Family. This is evidenced by the fact that both families possess many features that are in common: For example, both families are aristocratic and old money, with European lineage and an extended family clan. They associate with macabre and gothic themes, reflected in their dwellings which are Victorian mansions surrounded by a family graveyard filled with ancestral tombstones. The architectural design of the Goth family home in The Sims 3 is identical to the Addams family home in Addams Family Values, whilst the house in The Sims is identical to the 1964 TV series version of the Addams family house. The basic family nucleus, consisting of a husband, wife, daughter and son, is the same. Morticia Addams' and Mortimer's names share the Latin root word of "Mort", which means death. Both Mortimer and Gomez Addams have a habit of kissing up their wives' arms. Cassandra and Wednesday Addams play the part of the shy, quiet and mysterious daughter who wears pigtails. Additionally, in The Sims 3 version of Mortimer, as a child, he is dressed in similar clothing to Pugsley Addams. Mortimer's maternal aunt, Agnes Crumplebottom is renowned as the old prude in The Sims: Hot Date. Coincidentally, "Frump", Morticia Addams' maiden name, has a similar connotation, referring to a dull and old-fashioned person.
  • The Goth family in Moonlight Falls has some fountains at the house. Sims might occasionally get stuck in one, and they're unable to be interacted with unless they're freed by resetting them or moving the fountain.

Onomatology

Goth: Relates either to medieval times or means "an uncivilized person" or "a person without culture". The Goth name in general has some resemblance, as well. The family seems to be the oldest (making it "medieval") Also it can be a word for someone who likes to dress in black or likes the shadows.
Mortimer Goth: In French, "mort" means death. The name "Mortimer" descended from the French "Mer Morte", meaning "Dead Sea". This refers to the Dead Sea in the Middle East. It could also possibly mean "still water" in Old French. The name was brought back to Europe by French crusaders who had seen that sea. Mortimer's name perfectly suits his last name - Goth, as both name and last name are connected with gloom, death and gothic. Also, Mortimer's name is especially fitting for him in The Sims 2 as he is an elder, so technically death is near.
Bella Goth: Bella is short for "Isabella". Bella is associated with the Italian word for "beautiful". Bella's name seems fitting because - for a Sim - she is supposed to be very beautiful (considering her popularity connected with her appearance in SimNation and the fact that Don Lothario tried to "Make Out" with her).
Cassandra Goth: Of Greek origin, it possibly means "shining upon man". In Greek myth, Cassandra was a Trojan Princess who had been given the gift of prophecy by Apollo. She spurned his advances, and Apollo cursed her so that nobody would believe her prophecies. Cassandra's name is confusing because she doesn't predict anything that nobody believed. Having two men love her could be considered entangled, or 'scandalous'. Interesting that Cassandra's name is regarded to be a female version of name Alexander.
Alexander Goth: Means "defending man". Alexander the Great was the leader who created an empire through Greece, Egypt, Persia, and parts of India. Several other rulers and kings bear the name Alexander. Alexander's name seems fitting as well. He is the smart one and the first son; meaning he could have power to take over the family (if Dina Caliente doesn't do so first).
Gunther Goth: Variant of Günther, from Old High German "gund" (battle) and "heri" (army).
Cornelia Goth: Derived from the Latin word "cornu", meaning "horn". Or possibly, Cornelia is supposed to refer to "corn" because of the rural landscape of Pleasantview's past. The name is quite old-fashionable yet elegant and suits her perfectly.
Hecuba Goth: Variant on the Greek name 'Hekabe' which itself is a variant of 'Hecate' and can possibly mean "Far-off". From Greek Mythology - the wife of Priam and mother of Hector, Paris, and Cassandra (along with 16 other children) in Homer's Iliad. Hecate is also a traditional goddess of witches, which may relate with Cassandra Goth's name relating to prophecies.
Menelaus Goth: From Greek origin it means "withstanding the people". From Greek Mythology - the king of Sparta at the time of the Trojan War; husband of Helen and brother of Agamemnon.
Victor Goth: One definition is "a person who has overcome, a conqueror". Another definition is "a winner in any struggle or contest". The meaning of this name is quite clear, as "victor" in English means one who is victorious.
Gretle Goth: Commonly spelled Gretel; this name is a short form of Margaret, which in Greek means "pearl". Also, in a fairy tale, Gretel and her brother Hansel were captured by a witch but managed to escape. If there was a witch-like character in the Sims' games that may have kidnapped Gretle Goth, this name would make more sense.
Frida Goth: Means "peace".
Lolita Goth: Likely a reference to Vladimir Nabokov's novel Lolita and an obvious parody of the Japanese fashion 'Gothic Lolita'. Lolita is a nickname for "Dolores", which means "sorrows".
Cecilia Goth: Latinate feminine form of the Roman family name Caecilius, which was derived from Latin caecus "blind".
Samuel Goth: Hebrew origin meaning either "name of God" or "God has heard".
Olivia Goth: Invented by Shakespeare for his play "Twelfth Night." Olivia was either meant to be a female form of Oliver or derived from the vocabulary word 'olive' which is a symbol of peace.

  • The names of the family suggests German and English ancestry while Bella's father, Simis, may be of Hispanic and/or Italian heritage and her mother, Jocasta, being implied to be of Greek descent.
  • Notably, most of the men's names end in 'r' and most women's names end in 'a'. There are a few exceptions though.

Family tree

GothFamTree

Members

Characters who share the Goth family name, but whose connections (if any) to the family remain unknown, include:

Photo album

The Goth Family
Lolita - Victor - Gretle - Gunther - Cornelia - Frida - Mortimer - Bella - Cassandra - Alexander

Grandpa - Grandma - Uncle - Auntie - Cousin - Vegas - Bratty - Boy - Hecuba - Menelaus
Cecilia

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