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Olive Specter
Name Olive Specter
Gender Female Female
Specter family
Parents Peponi Muenda, Lerato Muenda Deceased
Sibling(s) Willow Nigmos Female Deceased
Romances Earl E. DeMiseEx-fiancée, Hugh Thanasia Married, Rigger Mortis Married, Ichabod Specter Married All Deceased, Grim Reaper Fell in Love with -Sim-
Marital status Widowed
Child(ren) Nervous Subject Son
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Olive Specter
Biography
Olive will stop at nothing to get what she wants. She spends her time collecting mushrooms, sharpening sticks, and excavating her yard.
Age TS3-Elder Elder
Life state CAS Human icon Sim
Education and Employment
Career
Slacker career Professional Party Guest
Personality
Zodiac sign Scorpio Scorpio
Aspiration Knowledge Knowledge
Appearance
Hair color TS2 Grey Hair Grey
Eye color TS2 Brown Eyes Brown
Skin color Skin-dark Dark
Body shape Thin Thin
Other Information
Game The Sims 2 Icon The Sims 2
Playability Playable
Neighborhood Strangetown
Midnight Hollow Logo
Olive Specter (The Sims 3)
Biography
High freedom and high fashion? What more can a girl ask for?
Age TS3-Adult Adult
Life state CAS Human icon Sim
Education and Employment
Career
Culinary career icon Vegetable Slicer
Personality
Traits
Trait Bookworm small Bookworm
Trait Commitment Issues small Commitment Issues
Trait Friendly small Friendly
Trait Light Sleeper small Light Sleeper
Trait Unlucky small Unlucky
Lifetime wish
LTW Living in the Lap of Luxury Living in the Lap of Luxury
Favorites
Fav Indie Indie
Fav Cookies Cookies
Fav Irish Green Irish green
Appearance
Hair color Haircolor7-TS3 Grey
Eye color Eye-brown Brown
Skin color Dark skin-TS3 Dark
Body shape Thin Thin
Other Information
Game TS3MH Icon The Sims 3 Store
Playability Playable
Neighborhood Midnight Hollow

Olive Specter (née Muenda, previously Thanasia and Mortis) is one of the pre-created, playable Sims that ships with The Sims 2 game.

She and her teenage niece, Ophelia Nigmos, reside in the Specter household in the neighborhood of Strangetown. Olive is a many-time widow - her many husbands included Hugh Thanasia, Rigger Mortis, and Ichabod Specter (all are deceased before the game begins). She was also left at the altar by Earl E. DeMise, who died soon after. The death of her many husbands has led some players to theorize that Olive is a murderer or was somehow responsible for their deaths; these theories remain unconfirmed.

She later appeared as a younger version of herself alongside her son Nervous Subject in the store world Midnight Hollow.

BiographyEdit

Life Leading up to The Sims 3Edit

Olive appeared alongside her son Nervous Subject in the store world Midnight Hollow.

There seems to be some kind of timeline confusion surrounding Nervous being taken away by social services and Olive's marriage to Ichabod Specter. In the Strangetown storyline from The Sims 2, Nervous had already been taken away by the time she married Ichabod, and therefore before Ichabod's death, whereas in Midnight Hollow, Ichabod is already dead and a ghost in her garden. Oddly, Earl E. DeMise does not appear in this world, although there is a grave in Dragon Valley that reads "Reserved for Earl E. DeMise" and "What's this about Easter Eggs?" The family tree does not show who Nervous' father is, even though some evidence is pointing at that Nervous' father is the Grim Reaper.[citation needed]

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Life Leading up to The Sims 2Edit

Olive shares her eerie, haunted home with her niece, Ophelia Nigmos. Her sister, Willow Nigmos, and Willow's husband Creon are both deceased and buried in Olive's garden; their deaths are the result of drowning. She is the daughter of Lerato Muenda and Peponi Muenda, both also of Strangetown, who both perished as a result of fire.

Olive did WooHoo with none other than the Grim Reaper; which suggests Olive had more than a passing relationship with death. Oddly enough, when the player gets the Paranormal career reward, introduced in the University expansion pack, and calls the Grim Reaper, he will say that Olive doesn't know anybody who has died.

Olive also had a son - Nervous Subject - who was taken away by the Social Worker. There is no record of Nervous' father in the family tree, though some say it is the Grim Reaper. Nervous, now an adult, currently resides at the Beaker residence with Loki and Circe Beaker. Everyone expects Olive's money to be inherited by Ophelia following her death, but, surprisingly, the inheritance goes to Nervous Subject.[1]

She dislikes General Buzz Grunt, whose ex-wife died on Olive's lot soon after leaving the Grunt household. Even though they dislike each other, Buzz will almost always come around to her lot if he is invited over immediately. This may prove the theory that Olive is a "serial-killer" and since they don't like each other, Buzz could be her next victim. Another evidence that she may be a murderer is the fact that Earl E. Demise died right after leaving Olive at the altar.

When first played, she will have a want to retire.

SimologyEdit

The Sims 2
Image Skill Level
Skill MechanicalMechanical04
Skill CharismaCharisma05
Skill CreativityCreativity05

The Sims 2
Image Name Relationship level
Buzz Grunt General Buzz Grunt Acquaintance
Ophelia Nigmos Ophelia Nigmos Acquaintance
Nervous Subject Nervous Subject Acquaintance

The Sims 2
Personality
Scorpio - Big
Scorpio
Sloppy 10 Neat
Shy 05 Outgoing
Lazy 05 Active
Serious 03 Playful
Grouchy 02 Nice
VibraLN Sign / personality mismatch

A Sim with this personality would normally be a Virgo.

Info information icon Genetic personality

Olive was born with 4 playful points and 1 nice point.

The Sims 2
Image Interest Level
Environment interestEnvironment10
Food interestFood09
Weather interestWeather08
Culture interestCulture00
Money interestMoney10
Politics interestPolitics04
Paranormal interestParanormal10
Health interestHealth10
Fashion interestFashion00
Travel interestTravel00
Crime interestCrime10
Sports interestSports00
Entertainment interestEntertainment00
Animals interestAnimals10
Work interestWork02
School interestSchool02
Toys interestToys00
Sci-Fi interestSci-Fi05

The Sims 2
Image Memory Type
Potty Trained Was potty trained by Lerato Muenda Positive
Learned to Walk from -Sim- Learned how to walk from Lerato Muenda Positive
Learned to Talk from -Sim- Learned how to talk from Lerato Muenda Positive
Grew Up Grew up well Positive
Met -Sim- Met Mystery Sim Positive
Grew Up Willow Nigmos grew up well Positive
Grew Up Grew up well Positive
-Sim- Died Danielle Greaves died Negative
Grew Up Grew up well Positive
Got a Job Got a job Positive
Had Very First Kiss with -Sim- Had the first kiss with Earl E. DeMise Positive
Had Very First Kiss with -Sim- Kissed Earl E. for the first time Positive
Grew Up Willow Nigmos grew up well Positive
Got a Promotion Promotion Positive
Fell in Love with -Sim- Fell in love with Earl E. Positive
Got Engaged to -Sim- Got engaged to Earl E. Positive
Got Left at the Altar by -Sim- Was left at altar by Earl E. Negative
-Sim- Died Earl E. died Negative
Grew Up Willow Nigmos grew up well Positive
-Sim- Died Tim Lee DeMise died Negative
-Sim- Died Seth Zaidi died Negative
-Sim- Died Patrick Jones died Negative
-Sim- Got Engaged Willow Nigmos got engaged Positive
-Sim- Got Married Willow Nigmos got married Positive
-Sim- Died Melissa Sims died Negative
Got a Promotion Promotion Positive
Got a Promotion Promotion Positive
-Sim- Died Lerato Muenda died Negative
-Sim- Died Peponi Muenda died Negative
Got a Promotion Promotion Positive
Got a Promotion Promotion Positive
-Sim- Died Jessica Ebadi died Negative
Had Very First Kiss with -Sim- Kissed Rigger Mortis for the first time Positive
-Sim- Died Benjamin Cho died Negative
Fell in Love with -Sim- Fell in love with Rigger Mortis Positive
Got a Promotion Promotion Positive
Got Engaged to -Sim- Got engaged to Rigger Mortis Positive
Got Married to -Sim-, a Rich Sim Got married to a rich sim, Rigger Mortis Positive
Got a Promotion Promotion Positive
-Sim- Died Rigger Mortis died Negative
Got a Promotion Promotion Positive
Reached the Top of the -career- Career Maxed Slacker career level Positive
Grew Up Grew up well Positive
-Sim- Died Vicki Sims died Negative
Had Very First Kiss with -Sim- Kissed Hugh Thanasia Positive
-Sim- Died Lyla Grunt died Negative
Got Engaged to -Sim- Got engaged to Hugh Positive
Got Married to -Sim- Got married to Hugh Positive
-Sim- Died Lou Thanasia died Negative
-Sim- Died Hugh Thanasia died Negative
Did WooHoo with -Sim- Had Woohoo with Grim Reaper Positive
-Sim- Died Knut Futa died Negative
-Sim- Died Luc Smith died Negative
Had -Sim- Nervous Subject's birth Positive
Became Best Friends with -Sim- Became best friends with Ichabod Specter Positive
Child Taken by Social Worker Nervous Subject was taken away by Social Worker Negative
Had Very First Kiss with -Sim- Kissed Ichabod Specter for the first time Positive
Fell in Love with -Sim- Fell in love with Ichabod Specter Positive
Got Engaged to -Sim- Got engaged to Ichabod Specter Positive
Got Married to -Sim- Got married to Ichabod Specter Positive
-Sim- Died Ichabod Specter died Negative
-Sim- Died Creon Nigmos died Negative
-Sim- Died Willow Nigmos died Negative
-Sim- Joined the Family! Ophelia Nigmos joined the family Positive
Grew Up Ophelia Nigmos grew up badly Negative

Olive's memory connectionsEdit

Earl E DeMise left Olive

Olive after being left at the altar by Earl who died shortly after.

If one studies the chronology of Olive's memories, it is apparent that she gave birth to her son Nervous after she had aged into an elder. Olive did WooHoo with the Grim Reaper after she became an elder. If one believes the theory that Grim Reaper is Nervous' father, that would mean that Olive got pregnant after she became an elder which is not allowed through normal gameplay.

Olive's graveyardEdit

There are a number of people buried in Olive's backyard along with family and former husbands - some of them are service people (maids, delivery people, etc.). Many of them have names that are related to death (Euthanasia, Early Demise, Rigor Mortis, etc.) There are many theories about Olive, and many unknown questions. How did all these people die in Olive's lot? A few players think perhaps before the game was in stores many Sims died, many other think they might be Olive's victims, however murder is technically impossible in The Sims games, it's a possible storyline. Olive's biography states that she will "stop at nothing to get what she wants." It also states that she spends her time "sharpening sticks," which may suggest her use of a weapon for her victims, and as well as "excavating her yard," which gives the clue that she spends her time digging holes to bury the bodies of her victims. Her surname, Specter, is also related to death, as a specter is another term for ghost.

TriviaEdit

  • Olive's name might be a play on the phrase "I love specter" possibly showing her love of the Grim Reaper.
  • Olive's name could also be a play on "o-live", as in an 'alive specter', or a live ghost - possibly again a relation to the Grim Reaper.
  • Olive, along with Herb and Coral Oldie, are the only living Sims in The Sims 2 base game that do not have grandparents in their family tree.
  • She remembers giving birth to a different Nervous Subject than the one that lives in Beaker household.
  • Like many people buried on her lot, she has no eyebrows.
  • Olive has a hidden Fortune aspiration token which can be viewed in SimPE along with her other memories.
  • On the official The Sims 2 website, sometimes in the news they would make reference to Olive Specter's cemetery, but they call it Olive's garden. Sometimes it is called Olive's garden in-game also. Maybe that is a reference to Olive Garden, which is thought to be a favorite restaurant for some of the game creators.
  • Without the use of cheats or the Elixir of Life, Olive typically dies of old age after about 2 days, the same day Ophelia becomes an adult.
  • When editing her in SimPE, her natural hair color is determined as brown, though both her parents have black hair and in the family's gallery she is shown as an adult with black hair. This suggests she dyed her hair black.
  • In The Sims 3 a medium painting can be the picture of Olive being left at the altar by Earl. It is a common Easter egg.
  • Olive has no known relationships with anyone in her graveyard except Ichabod Specter, Lerato Muenda, Peponi Muenda, and Willow Nigmos. Strangely, each of these Sims are mere acquaintances with Olive despite being in her immediate family. They are also non-resurrectable. Using SimPE, you can see that she also has relationship points with 19 "Unknown" Sims. The remaining Sims in her graveyard appear to have relationship values but they are not considered "known" relationships because the box is unchecked.
  • Olive seems to have an obsession with death. An example would be her choice of spouses, Earl E. Demise (Early Demise), Rigger Mortis (Rigor mortis, the act of muscles stiffening after death), Hugh Thanasia (Pun on Euthanasia, the act of ending a life painlessly), etc. The hypothesis is supported by the past relationship she had with the Grim Reaper
  • Olive's bio suggests the possibility of her being a murderer and the people at her graveyard being her victims, as she spends her time "sharpening sticks and excavating her garden" and she will stop at nothing to get what she wants.

Other LanguagesEdit

Language The Sims 2 The Sims 3
English Olive Specter Olive Specter
Brazilian Portuguese Olívia Espectro Oliva Espectro
Chinese (Simplified) 奥利弗 斯贝克特
Chinese (Traditional) 歐莉芙 斯派特
Czech Olivie Přízračná
Danish Olivia Spøgh-Elsen
Dutch Olijfje Siebrand Olive Specter
European Portuguese Olívia Espectro
Finnish Olivia Vainajala
French Olivia Chimère Vert olive Chimère
German Olivia Speck
Italian Olive Specter
Japanese オリーヴ スペクター
Korean 올리브 스펙터
Norwegian Olivia Aandesen
Polish Oliwka Widmo Olive Specter
Russian Gertruda Necronomicon
(Гертруда Некрономикон)
Oliva Phantom
(Олива Фантом)
Russian 2 Oliviya Specter
(Оливия Спектер)
Spanish Olvido Fantoche
Swedish Olivia Gast
Thai โอลีฟ สเปคเตอร์

See alsoEdit

NotesEdit

  1. Since inheritance in The Sims 2 is separate from family funds, the family funds will pass to Ophelia as long as she is living on the lot when Olive dies.


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